Neighbours asked to take van off site

[poolielad]

Hi all, just been informed by our van neighbours that they have been told to move there van off site due to the age of the van.....

Thing is there is older looking vans on the site, although i am not sure if others have been asked to move theres.. The neighbours have been told that they have had 5 years on the site and the owners are in there rights to ask them to leave.... The thing is our van is a 1998 cosalt rimini and when i bought it i asked the rep if we were only allowed a certain time on the site, he said, there is a van which is 26 year old and as long as we keep it in good condition there is no problem regarding the age of van.....Although we have only been on there a year , after 5 years are they allowed to do this to anyone???? I am really angry for my poor neighbours who like us dont have the money to upgrade, we put our life savings into this van, and i am really annoyed...I would like to hear what people think about this....

BTW we are on Amble LInks in Northumberland..

[Darren]

You should check the site rules and regulation book that you should have signed to say you agreed with and see if it is covered in there.

Whatever was said to you when you where buying dosn't matter to many operators unless you got it in writing of course, much like just about every other industry.

Hopefully there will be a member on here who has had a similar experience who can help you more.

Darren

[Darren]

Also is the park a member of BH&HPA or the NCC as they should then abide by the code of practise and licence agreement which you should be able to get from reception

[indianwells]

Also is the park a member of BH&HPA or the NCC as they should then abide by the code of practise and licence agreement which you should be able to get from reception

If the park is a member of BH&HPA the customer should be given a copy of his own personal licence agreement. We give everyone a copy of theirs and a Code Of Practice. We state the length of tenure in each agreement so every single owner knows where they are. I know many parks don't do this but they should if they are members. Any owner who has not got, or weren't offered an agreement when they bought their caravan should get in touch with BH&HPA if their park is a member. BH&HPA are pretty useless when it comes to policing their own rules.

[Sunshine]

Hi Gary

The owner of that park rang me today (the one who said they don't issue licences). Anyway basically he tried to persuade me to still come down and would offer verbal assurances which he seemed to think were better than written down on paper. He said they didn't offer licences as there would be an end date when the van had to come off and they did better than that by telling everyone that there was no age limit. I disagreed telling him what you said about stating the length of the tenure on site with annual reviews after 15 years but he still seemed to think he offered a better deal verbally.

I told him that although he might regard himself as a person of integrity/honesty and he could very well be, he was a complete stranger to me and as such I would be mad to hand over £25,000 on his say so that the van could remain on site for 15 years, after all I told him, anything could happen in 15 years. He did offer to put the bit about no age on vans into writing but I refused this also by saying that there were all sorts of other "rights" of both van owner and park owner laid down in the licence to prevent any "irregularities" on the sides of both owner and park owner happening but it didn't seem to impress him. I then told him I was shocked that they didn't offer licences when they are members of the BH & HPA Association but again he made no comment. He just asked me if I could be persuaded to change my mind and I said no and that I would be buying from a park that offered a licence.

After approaching the BH & HPA to confirm that they were in fact members, I have received a response to my query saying that they are and do I want to make a complaint about the park.

I am still pondering that one ! :rolleyes:

[indianwells]

Hi Sunshine!

If he thinks a verbal contract is better than a written one then he shouldn't be in business.
As for making a complaint to the BH&HPA, as you are not buying on the park there is no real point. You could ask them why they are not enforcing their own rules though.

Cheers, Gavin :D

[4dbennett]

Hi Sunshine!

If he thinks a verbal contract is better than a written one then he shouldn't be in business.
As for making a complaint to the BH&HPA, as you are not buying on the park there is no real point. You could ask them why they are not enforcing their own rules though.

Cheers, Gavin :D


hi mate, most sites i have been on are run by the owners rules, normally how it suits them, most rules/regs are verbal and as owners they lease you the ground to put your van on and are entitled to ask you to leave whenever they want irrespective to individual circumstances, the BH&HPA offer guidelines and will not involve themselves in disputes,

regards dave

[Caravanwise]

I really think that everyone who is thinking about buying a static caravan should get hold of The Office of Fair Trading paper on "Unfair Terms in Holiday Caravan Agreements". You can download a copy here.

http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/business_leaflets/unfair_contract_terms/oft734.pdf

Download it and have a read.

Although the trade organisations might not get involved in a specific complaint I'm confident that your local trading standards department would have a look at it especially if the NCC and/or BH&HPA have been contacted and refused.

As a general principal if you are involved in any type of complaint or dispute about a contract write don't phone and keep a copy of all of your letters.

[4dbennett]

Thanks mate very useful info

regards dave

[janet125]

hi does any1 no of any registered caravan sites in scarboro cos we want to move down there and live in a caravan or has any1 dun that themselves, were lookin 4 a cheaper way to live cos fed up of workin 40hrs a week want less hrs and more leisure time. any advice wud b grt we really r new to all this and r inneed of help.;)

[Sunshine]

Hi Jan

I think you will find that the majority of sites only let you stay on site for a maximum of 11 months unless they are stated as "residential". Otherwise the park owner would have to charge you council rates to live on the site.

We looked into this thoroughly when we had the idea of spending some time in our Spanish apartment (up to 6 months) and 6 months in a caravan and wondered if we did decide to move back to the UK, if we could live in the caravan but were told we would have to move off site for at least 4-6 weeks each year.

Good Luck with whatever you decide.


Janet

[amble]

I know the thread is old but maybe they only had a license for 5 years so were asked to leave or renew for a new term.

[poolielad]

I am guessing you are on Amble Links by your user name!!! Am i correct???

[amble]

I am guessing you are on Amble Links by your user name!!! Am i correct???

Yes on the links;)

[poolielad]

Yes on the links;)


They were told the same as me when i bought mine on there, that there was no age limit on any vans as long as you kept them in good condition...... BTW wha pitch you on on there.... we where shorelark Grove...

[gag1951]

Who owns Amble Links these days ?

Cheers.
gag1951

[poolielad]

Park Parasites, sorry I mean Park Leisure.....

[Caravanwise]

I find it hard to believe that anyone would part with £25,000 for something without getting a written contract for what they are buying. The only investment you are getting from buying a sited static caravan is future holidays on the site of your choice, at the very least you want to be sure that is secure.

[TreeTops]

If the park is a member of BH&HPA the customer should be given a copy of his own personal licence agreement. We give everyone a copy of theirs and a Code Of Practice. We state the length of tenure in each agreement so every single owner knows where they are. I know many parks don't do this but they should if they are members. Any owner who has not got, or weren't offered an agreement when they bought their caravan should get in touch with BH&HPA if their park is a member. BH&HPA are pretty useless when it comes to policing their own rules.

We use the same contract as Indianwells. It's very fair and balanced and protects the rights of the caravan owner, it gives you a guaranteed period of occupation, as long as park rules are abided by.

Check the contract you signed when you bought the caravan. If there’s no time period listed assume that you are on an annual renewal. This means the park owner can elect not to renew your contract at the end of a season. There (almost) no such thing as no time limit. No time limit means the park owner might as well give you the land, that's why they don't exist. A time limit ensures that you know your investment is assured for a period of time

I’m really sorry to hear about your neighbours, please remember that there’s 2 sides to every story and not all park owners are bad!!


Good luck, I hope things work out in the end.

Cheers

Andy