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Old 14-12-2016, 13:39
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Hi all new to this great forum, im looking into buying a residential park home in the next few months, don't mind too much where in uk but not too far north, iv e a budget of up to 100,000 what could I realisticly buy with this and what sort of age unit ?? any advice welcome, be gentle with me.. !!! btw only looking for 2 bed and I have a little yorkie too old enough to live on semi retired place.:
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Old 14-12-2016, 16:03
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Hello and welcome to the forum.
Your budget should be sufficient to get you a smaller older home (re-sale) - as you are not tied into any particular area you are in the fortunate position of being able to look for a cheaper area (look at the Midlands, where there are some extremely nice established parks).
The market for residential homes follows the market for bricks&mortar, so an area which is expensive for houses will also be expensive for park homes (as an example, in Dorset brand new park homes are being sold for about 400K. Gulp).
Have a look on the parkhome-living.co.uk website, as they list residential parks plus contact details for surveyors etc. They also have an extremely useful checklist of things that the seller should tell the buyer about - monthly costs for water/sewerage/electric/gas or oil, etc.
Most important point: Check, check and check again that the Park has a residential licence (this is not the same as a 12 month holiday licence) and that the home you are interested in is within the residential licensed area - it is not unknown for some parks to have dual holiday and residential areas.
Remember that the estate agents who advertise on Rightmove have little knowledge or understanding of the difference between residential and holiday, so advertise everything as a "Park Home", regardless of whether it is residential or not.
Do not rely on the information from the vendor, the estate agent, or even the park itself - ask to see the paperwork, check the licence with the local council, and it is adviseable to use a solicitor experienced in Park homes.
Find out who the park owner/operators are and look them up with a simple Google search - there are a few bad apples out there that you may be best to avoid.
Find out what the pitch fee is, and remember that it relentlessly increases each year by RPI.
As you are probably going to buy an older home, GET IT SURVEYED before you totally commit - especially the chassis. Any defects found can be used to reduce the price.. most problems can be fixed. (There are 40-50 year old homes out there still going strong).
The Park and your potential neighbours are the most important things - if you are on a good park with pleasant neighbours, then you can be happy. Look at the surrounding area and make sure it will suit you in years to come(transport links, shops, etc) (Although virtually every residential park gets supermarket deliveries anyway).
Read the various posts on this forum, and also the forum linked to the Park home living website, as both sites have a lot of useful information.
If you are a member of Facebook, then it can be worthwhile to look on the ILiveinaparkhome page -it was set up by some people who live on some bad sites, and it is useful to read about the underbelly of residential park homes. After this site has thoroughly depressed you, remember that there are hundreds of happy park home residents - just make sure to do your research before you buy.
Good home hunting, and keep coming back to ask questions, as there are a lot of knowledgeable people on here.
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Old 14-12-2016, 16:52
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have a look on the Seekers' website (seekersparkhomes.co.uk) as they have a facility to put the price range in - they seem to have quite a few residential park homes in the Midlands and South for under 100K (which allow dogs).
They do not advertise on Rightmove, so you need to go direct to their website for details.
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Old 14-12-2016, 17:29
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thank you so much fhb very good advise yes older park home and I promise not to rush into anything, research and question asking to get it right first time, I will look on the website s mentioned , I have looked on the seekers site and have seen some lovely properties, and some no so good but with a little tlc have potential , makes me laugh how some properties are advertsed, ie washing up/clothes strewn everywhere and generally a mess !! lol will keep you all posted and I will keep researching thankyou for taking the time to respond.peaky
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Old 14-12-2016, 18:15
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There are some very good park home site owners and some very bad ones too. Its essential that you do your homework. Find parks in the areas you are interested in, find out who is behind them, then when you get close to making up your mind, go and have a chat to some of the owners of the actual park homes on the site. Join Facebook groups and Forums like this to get the insider view of what its like to live in a park home if you are lucky or hopefully, skilled enough to find a good site & the pitfalls and regrets you may have if you end up on a bad one. Ignore those glossy magazines with their idealistic articles that make park home living like heaven on Earth & find out the real advantages and the pitfalls too. Buy in haste, repent at leisure. There are more than a few crooks in the park Home industry & a few get rich quick investors who treat the park home life as a cash cow. Its better than it used to be because of recent government legislation but its still far from perfect. You have a good start here in that you may hopefully get a personal recommendation from a forum member that you can trust. Also remember that some park home site owners, especially the less kind ones, often have several sites under different names so check with Companies House to see the real owners of the land you wish to put your park home on. A park home is really only worth anything when its sited and if you make a mistake & decide its not for you for any reason, it can be very expensive. Resale value will be a lot less than you paid originally as the site owner is entitled to a percentage of the sale of your home & an unsited park home is worth very little. Sorry if it seems like I am very negative but the difference between a good land owner & a bad one is very great & will make the difference between Park Home living the difference between a joy & a curse. Keep your money safely in the bank until you are 100% sure & dont sign anything on a first visit however good it seems. Engage a solicitor and preferably one who specialises in Park Homes. Check with the local council where you would pay your council tax where the park home is sited & make sure that the site really does have a residential licence. Some sites have a 12 month holiday licence only and they will tell you that you can live there all year but legally, you cannot. I personally know of a park home site approx 15 miles from where I have my holiday caravan who does just that. They are advertising park homes as residential when I know for sure they only have a holiday licence. Good luck with your search for a home.
http://parkhomeliving.lefora.com/

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Old 14-12-2016, 20:54
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thank you rrrob good advise indeed, I will heed all the warnings and I guess im having a year s research to do and info gathering so I will hopefully be somewhat prepared.
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Old 15-12-2016, 10:39
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Someone cheer me up, I ve been doing a lot of surfing and the majority of posts about park homes are negative, I just want a small residential plot nice garden good owners and not costing the earth or putting up fees and changing rules and contracts at a drop of the hat, residential is what im after but I hav nt found one owner in a residential home coming forward to claim their happy with their lot... come on folks there must be someone out there ??
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Someone cheer me up, I ve been doing a lot of surfing and the majority of posts about park homes are negative, I just want a small residential plot nice garden good owners and not costing the earth or putting up fees and changing rules and contracts at a drop of the hat, residential is what im after but I hav nt found one owner in a residential home coming forward to claim their happy with their lot... come on folks there must be someone out there ??
Don't dismiss these people's experiences they wanted what you want. This way you can go into it with your eyes open and hopefully avoid any of the pitfalls. Remember these parks are run as a business and nowhere near like owning your own home. You've done the right thing by doing some research. The golden rule is to get everything in writing and read the park agreement before you push the button on anything.
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Someone cheer me up, I ve been doing a lot of surfing and the majority of posts about park homes are negative, I just want a small residential plot nice garden good owners and not costing the earth or putting up fees and changing rules and contracts at a drop of the hat, residential is what im after but I hav nt found one owner in a residential home coming forward to claim their happy with their lot... come on folks there must be someone out there ??
Seems like you are looking at holiday static reviews. Or that facebook page..
Have you tried looking on the Parkhome-living forum? Matter has been discussed there, and the majority are overall happy.
There are a lot of justified negatives about park homes, but none of them are about the owner being able to change contracts/fees/rules on a whim.
Buy a Park home on a RESIDENTIAL site, which is considered a Protected Site under the Mobile Homes Act, and there are very very strict controls about what can or cannot be done.
Firstly, the site rules can only be changed by mutual consent - i.e, a majority of the residents must either agree or at least not disagree. Secondly, there are legal forms that the Park has to fill in and issue, and then when all is agreed, the Park has to formally lodge the site rules with the licensing council.
Contracts cannot be changed. The contract consists of two parts, implied terms - which are the terms laid down in law under the Mobile Homes Act and apply to all residential homes on protected sites, even if they do not have a contract. The second are express terms, which are additional terms, such as the pitch fee, site rules, whether your pitch fee includes electricity/water or whether these are additional costs.
When buying a used home from the owner, you also take over the original owner's terms and contract, including the pitch fee.
The pitch fee is reviewed once a year, and has to be issued on specific forms with specific information. It will increase by RPI each year (except in Wales, where CPI is used).
If there have bee improvements to the Park (not maintenence, actual improvements, such as better infrastucture, gates or CCTV added) then the cost of these CAN be added to the pitch fee - BUT: only if this has been pre-agreed with the residents prior to the work being done. Again, a majority of the residents have to either agree or at least not disagree.
And finally, buy a proper residential home and you have security of tenure (read through the Mobile Homes Act, a copy is on the Parkhome-living website).
Many of the articles you have surfed are almost certainly written by people who have no idea about residential parks - hence the number of warnings about having to move when the home is 10 years old, complete rubbish.
FINALLY - I live in a residential Park home, and I am happy. Not perfect, but it is home and I have no regrets.
Go to some sites (look for open days) and talk to as many residents as you can see to get a true idea.
And finally - apart from paying the pitch fee and a few restrictions (some as site rules, some as law) on what can or cannot be done, day to day life is no different than it is anywhere. Post gets delivered, rubbish gets collected, weeds grow faster than the flowers, and the squirrels dig the bulbs up..

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Old 16-12-2016, 07:16
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thanks fhb again but its difficult when only having internet , I like the seekers website as it gives good instant info , im out of the country at present but when returning will be visiting a good many sites on my days off there is a park/home with my name on it somewhere but we just have to be patient and thoroughly pragmatic im compiling my list of checks and asks as I go.
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